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发表于 9-12-2011 14:52:54|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层

tianyizhy  这个化学成绩好像很悲剧啊,即便不抢,也不应该只有50%拿A啊!不知道其他数理的考试情况是怎样的呢?
去年的化学全新加坡的孩子都杯具了,太难了!考完试后各个初院的考场上哭声一片。我同事的儿子在维初,都快哭昏过去了。他平时成绩全班第一,A-level时化学题居然一大半都不会做。。。

其实华中去年的A-level整体成绩是近三年来最好的,直逼莱佛士,还出了个状元。。。




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我一直在等着,啥考试能把我儿子考哭了,那我就服了。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 23:12
算了,不麻烦J大侠了,读书还是靠自己的。随缘了。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 15:06
J大侠,有没有华中和莱佛士ALevel考试成绩对比的数据啊?  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 15:03
这样啊~~~考试是既考能力,又考运气的。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 14:59
状元是看到了,那个是女孩子,我们只能仰望。数理化是男孩子走遍江湖的尚方宝剑呢!刚刚郁闷了,现在去上海看看那里的ALevel水平。谢谢J版  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 14:57
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发表于 9-12-2011 14:57:41|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
小狮租房
咋越说越不堪了呢?俺女儿的美国老师的推荐信,比我做妈的还更加赞我的孩子呢!!!80%拿A真是应该的,不觉得怎么大不了呢!OMG

是的。新加坡本地一些华人,他们坚守中国的某些传统,比国内的人还坚持的。

这也愈加导致很多优秀的学生转向RI了。有点恶性循环的意思。

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传说:RI特别会包装自己的学生,不过也不用包装,RI全球最好的20所中学之一。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 23:15
我朋友的儿子在RI,老师的推荐信把孩子说的“像个神一样” -- 他爸告诉我的。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 15:06
可是不会发现孩子闪光点的父母和老师都不能算是好父母和好老师呀。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 15:02
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发表于 9-12-2011 15:17:17|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
tianyizhy  算了,不麻烦J大侠了,读书还是靠自己的。随缘了。
tianyizhy  J大侠,有没有华中和莱佛士ALevel考试成绩对比的数据啊?
我还是去找找看吧,我自己也想知道。





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谢谢了。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 15:25
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发表于 9-12-2011 15:52:33|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
这种比较真的不太有意义,就像清华和北大,哈佛和耶鲁,牛津和剑桥,麦当劳和肯德基,旗鼓相当,各有所长。爱自己的母校最好。转来转去也没太大意思。

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就是。换校还得适应新环境,新的教育方式,就剩2年了,没多大意思  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 23:36
有道理,都是顶尖学校。不过,还是好奇。。。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 16:01
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发表于 9-12-2011 15:52:47|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
这种比较真的不太有意义,就像清华和北大,哈佛和耶鲁,牛津和剑桥,麦当劳和肯德基,旗鼓相当,各有所长。爱自己的母校最好。转来转去也没太大意思。

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比较有时可以是了解的途径;了解,可以帮助自己定位;至少可以知道距离;也可以因此更爱自己的学校,更加努力。凡事都有两面性。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 16:48
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发表于 9-12-2011 16:12:54|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 pingan04 于 9-12-2011 17:33 编辑
erey 发表于 9-12-2011 15:52
这种比较真的不太有意义,就像清华和北大,哈佛和耶鲁,牛津和剑桥,麦当劳和肯德基,旗鼓相当,各有所长。 ...


其实,孩子JC再进入一个新初院的话,最大的弊病是没有朋友。

尤其是这类直通车学校,很多孩子经过四年的初中,都形成一个大致固定的群体。有CCA的好朋友,有各种社团活动的好搭档,有学习上的合得来的朋友等等。一个外来的新生,真的很难插进去的。

年级越高的孩子,转入新学校,需要的适应周期越长的。这种倍受冷落的感觉,就是对我们成人来说,都是极不舒服的。

当然,有的孩子适应能力强,一段时日后,就能交到新朋友。不过,有的孩子真就一直是落单的。这种心理压力,会影响孩子的心情,直接导致学习成绩下滑的。

所以,这个时期让孩子转学,如果是为了孩子特别感兴趣的科目,对于孩子来说,可能会利大于弊。

否则,极大的可能会是弊大于利的结果。

三思而行。。。
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发表于 9-12-2011 17:47:55|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
tianyizhy  比较有时可以是了解的途径;了解,可以帮助自己定位;至少可以知道距离;也可以因此更爱自己的学校,更加努力。凡事都有两面性。

好吧,那就比一下吧:



2010  A Level Result
RI
HCI
9A人数
3
1
8A人数
73
59
7A人数
169
140
各科全A人数
130
94
H2全A比例
65%
>60%
达到世界顶尖大学的录取标准
65%
>60%
% of A in GP
53.0%
42.4%
% of A in H2  Physics
75.2%
68%
% of A in H2  Mathematics
74.9%
73.6%
% of A in H2  Chemistry
71.6%
>50%
% of A in H2  Biology
66.6%
>70%
% of A in H2  Geography
68.5%
>70%
% of A in H2  History
73.1%
>70%
% of A in H2  English Literature & Linguistics
35.0%
>50%


华中的A-level其它各科成绩无法得知。RI的A-level各科成绩如下:








另外, 2009年华中的A-level数理成绩依旧是新加坡第一。2010年的排名则没有公布,不过可以看出来华中这一年的数理成绩有所下降,而RI有大幅度的上升。

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看了数据,新加坡最强学校的数理化标准化考试成绩好像不如中国好学校的普遍水平。  详情 回复 发表于 10-12-2011 00:57
貌似RI还是略胜一筹  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 23:19
J版神哪,呵呵。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 21:17
再次膜拜,J 版  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 21:05
谢谢J版,学习了。  详情 回复 发表于 9-12-2011 18:17
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发表于 10-12-2011 00:28:38|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 jjrchome 于 10-12-2011 00:41 编辑
乐陶陶  对,今年dsa 2校的说明会上,RI敢把各名牌大学录取RI的数字亮出来,华侨就我们问,他都讲不出来.


我去找找看。先把RI的给贴出来:



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强大。就这个,当时我摄到录像机里了。  详情 回复 发表于 11-12-2011 15:59
例如上面2010年的,有可能哈佛的4位也正好是普雷斯顿八个人中的四个,也正好是耶鲁四个人的全部,当然这只是可能。  详情 回复 发表于 10-12-2011 00:47
J版,这个数据的参考意义不大,因为美国大学除了ED(早录取)外,每个孩子想申请几所大学就申请几所,优秀的可以带给学校很多个名校录取的记录  详情 回复 发表于 10-12-2011 00:45
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发表于 10-12-2011 01:05:46|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 jjrchome 于 10-12-2011 02:13 编辑
tianyizhy  看了数据,新加坡最强学校的数理化标准化考试成绩好像不如中国好学校的普遍水平。

中国的A-level考试试卷应该是英国剑桥大学出的,而新加坡的是由新加坡考试局和剑桥大学合作编制的,因此二者的题目和难度应该会有所不同。

tianyizhy  例如上面2010年的,有可能哈佛的4位也正好是普雷斯顿八个人中的四个,也正好是耶鲁四个人的全部,当然这只是可能。  
tianyizhy  J版,这个数据的参考意义不大,因为美国大学除了ED(早录取)外,每个孩子想申请几所大学就申请几所,优秀的可以带给学校很多个名校录取的记录

有道理。可是RI的网站上又有着这样一句话:”A total of 59 Rafflesians were offered a place in Oxbridge in2011, vastly outnumbering their peers from other schools in Singapore“。这好像又是以人数来计算的。

华中的Koh Mingming同时拿到哈佛和耶鲁的Offer,是不是也被华中算了两次呢?

我再去查查看。。。

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发表于 10-12-2011 01:23:02|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 jjrchome 于 10-12-2011 01:37 编辑

转载一篇昨天的新闻报道,看完后才知道华中的人文为何如此强大。

Goodbye to Singapore's Mr Chips
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/expateducation/8874168/Goodbye-to-Singapores-Mr-Chips.html

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Expat teacher Lionel Barnard has spent over three decades preparing Singapore   students for Oxbridge. He tells Justin Harper why it's finally time  to retire。
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Teacher Lionel Barnard, with former students in Singapore: 'You find success breeds success. Once our students saw what was possible, then things just took care of themselves'

By Justin Harper                                                                                             
9:32AM GMT 09 Nov 2011                                
  
Lionel Barnard will soon be departing Singapore after 32 years at one of the   city state’s most prestigious schools. And in that time he has built up an   impressive list of achievements.


The British expat, 66, has spent more than three decades at Hwa Chong   Institution helping to guide hundreds of students into the elite British universities of Oxford and Cambridge.


And during his long tenure, Lionel has nurtured 25 President’s Scholars – the   highest honour a Commonwealth student can achieve. Originally called Queen’s   Scholars, these awards are handed out to the brightest students across the   Commonwealth each year. They were renamed President’s Scholars before   Singapore gained independence but have lost none of their prestige.   President’s Scholars typically go on to take top-ranking positions in the   government and military.

Lionel was working in the UK as a teacher in 1980 when he was handpicked by   the Singapore government to pioneer its humanities programme – aimed at   grooming students to get into Oxford and Cambridge universities.

He said: “Singapore had the best maths and engineering students in top   positions in the country but none from other academic backgrounds and this   was causing problems. So I was one of a handful of teachers brought in   specifically to get students to study PPE (philosophy, politics and   economics) at Oxbridge.”

The programme was an immediate success. Out of the 33 students from its   pioneering cohort who applied to Oxford and Cambridge, 32 received places.   Since this spectacular first year, more than 300 students have won places at   Britain’s top two universities.

Lionel is modest about his achievements at Hwa Chong and how he helped launch   the careers of some of Singapore’s most powerful and influential residents.   “You find success breeds success. Once we put Hwa Chong on the map with   Oxford and Cambridge and our students saw what was possible then things just   took care of themselves.”

By 1986, of the six teachers who were recruited from England to set up the   programme, Lionel was the only one left. Many would have been happy with his   initial success but Lionel wanted to build on his track record and establish   Hwa Chong as a major player in developing Oxbridge-educated future leaders.

As a result Hwa Chong is one of only two foreign schools in the list of top 20   institutions sending students to the University of Cambridge, while some   Oxford colleges have taken students from Hwa Chong every year for the past   30 years.

Things are getting tougher though, as Oxbridge faces pressure to give more   places to British students while established Singapore schools like Hwa   Chong and Raffles College compete with the rising powers of India and China.

Demand for places from Singaporean students is also increasing as personal   wealth grows and parents realise they can now afford to send their offspring   to an elite foreign university.

But this increased demand is not just for top British universities. “We are   seeing a lot more students head to America to Ivy League colleges which now   compete with Oxbridge so the landscape has changed a bit.”

While success was important to win over critics in the early years, it has not   all been plain sailing. Most of Lionel’s problems stemmed from the lack of   freedom students were given, in a society known for its strong government   control. To counteract this, Mr Barnard treated students like   undergraduates, giving them more freedom than they were used to.

“If you give them a liberal education and let them think for themselves then   they become more academically mature and more confident. It’s no surprise   that you get out of that different types of students who can become   President’s Scholars.”

Lionel himself studied philosophy, politics and economics at Bristol   University and obtained a master’s in education from Lancaster University.   He says being English helped when it came to dealing with admissions boards   at Oxford and Cambridge.

The jovial Mr Barnard is married to a French ballet teacher and has three   grown-up children. He is planning his retirement in rural France, leaving   behind the skyscrapers of Singapore for an 18th-century farmhouse.

He knew it was time to call it a day when he discovered he was teaching the   daughter of a former student – Singapore’s second permanent secretary for   Trade and Industry. “I've been here long enough to teach both mother and   daughter – that made me think I’d better retire,” he joked.

Lionel will leave behind a strong legacy for his successor and a track record   hard to beat. One unintentional tribute came from the head of a “leading   girls’ school” in the UK who contacted Lionel thousands of miles away for   advice on how to get her most gifted students into Oxbridge.

While his former students heap praise on him, does feel he has achieved his   original objective to rebalance the strong intake of maths and engineering   graduates entering government and the public sector?

“Asia has a long history of producing many brilliant students who excel in   maths and science as there has been so much emphasis on these subjects.   Therefore it was always going to be an uphill struggle getting them to study history and other art-based subjects.

“But with so many maths and science students for the Public Service Commission   to choose from, we helped students realise that studying other subjects   would give them the language and communication skills that were lacking   among other candidates.”

PPE is now the most popular subject studied by Hwa Chong students heading to  Oxbridge followed by law, history, English, geography and politics. The 12 Hwa Chong students currently in Oxford are all studying PPE.

Was it hard leaving the UK to become an expat ?

“I was working as a teacher in 1979 and was offered a salary three times what   I was currently earning. Margaret Thatcher had just come into power and I   decided it was a good time to leave the country. I initially took the job   for three years as the plan was for students returning from the UK would   take over from me. But, obviously that never happened...” It's as well for   Hwa Chong that it didn't.



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